wtorek, 10 stycznia 2023

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 We should be able to carry pax like that in the game yes? You start with an overcharge %,  say up to 1000%over maximum, and a random number drops off between transport cities?

Question: Has anyone ever seen a  track maintenance during an EG?

no no

continuing the discussion here after posting a bug or something else in the feedback  channel keeps  that channel better readable for players who enter the discord and  want to catch up what is posted.

during the city competitions and endgame no track maintenance or storm should be active

Ok, so Players are saying the jumping trains is when there is track maintenance only.. I am getting info now from players who call in EG and they have the same jumping trains, and there is no track maintenance.. so this jumping train situation, may not be related to the track maintenance.... just letting everyone know what I am finding out..

If that’s the case it’s more widespread and a much bigger issue. So I expect a much faster response 馃檪

info about different locos position what u see was reported before oe....

Skylar, I am gathering info from players from all over, trying to help. The more info the devs get the better it will be to help fix it. People care and people are trying to work on fixing it.

I understand Lani you are doing what you can. I know you care, I know players care. I fail to see that same level of care from the team.

We just get fobbed off with a standard wait until we can be bothered to respond

so city comp and normal comp shouldn't run at the same time, or in overlap, but they do also; have been reported several times

so what you say is how it should work, it doesn't mean it works that way 

Just for transparency I recieved a warning for bring up the issues with the game, and the bugs that are plaguing us. I won’t stop raising these issues as the players deserve a stable game & deserve answers. 

its all players fault!

If you had a warning it's because you had a bad behavior or said something bad. No one is warned or kicked just because they report issues... 

No I had a warning specifically for bringing up these issues and being persistent about it. it was stated in the warning. Essentially be silenced we will respond in time.

its getting worse and worse...

We are a community, let's all work together to get these things taken care of. We have new players joining all the time, we don't want to give them a bad first experience. Please.. I ask of you..

The bad first experience comes from the game, not discord they play the game before they come here.

I want to change that so all players have a good experience and enjoyable time playing the game.

For that to happen serious priority needs to be put into making the game stable

I was talking about the new players that do come into Discord for the fellowship and learning. We don't need to run them off.

"Unfortunately, many regard the critic as an enemy, instead of seeing him as a guide to the truth." - Steinitz

I’ve been frequenting this discord for a long time, and have never made such a consistent and protracted push for anything to be solved. It’s gotten to the point where it’s not enough to stay silent and wait it does nothing.

I’m a long term player who wants the game to be good & say good things about the game and not have to raise these issues. I wouldn’t have to if we were respected enough for the issues to be addressed in a timely fashion. Not two years down the line.

and you really think that complaining for days will solve the problem? No, that doesn't solve the bugs, it's just annoying. 馃槮

so we should accept no positive changes in game and be quiet ?!

See. How much effect does it have to call out to a flower: "Grow, bloom quicker!"

I wish it would help and would scream in a choir together with you.

Being quiet and hoping for something different than we already get isn’t going to do anything.

I just don't understand why you think that nothing makes any difference, except your method.

I can guarantee you that this is the least productive of all the options. Especially since you were offered all kinds of alternatives yesterday by all sorts of well-meaning people who are not against you, but just want to point out that you lose your time here.

My method is to highlight the issues and bugs that are now at the point where the game is becoming unplayable. If these are brought up once or put through the usual means, well this is how we got where we are?

So obviously it’s not resolving the issues or improving the game for players. Rather protracting the fixing of issues & delaying responses to them.

Most games release updates and fix any bugs that arise immediately before releasing more updates or at least don’t leave major game affecting bugs untouched for years

We have to report them in a feedback channel, wait a few months for a text response and wait longer for a fix? This is why I’m so dissatisfied & why a large part of the community are frustrated.

So I get that you want me to use the usual established channels of communication and I’d be insane to think it would lead to anything other than the current status quo

You think the established channels don't work and your method will be fruitful. I understand that.

The established channels have led to the current situation, I’ve respected those channels the whole time I’ve played and used those means of reporting issues and raising problems.

It has not worked, issues haven’t been resolved in a timely manner and we still wait for fixes for problems that existed when I began playing years ago.

So what is there to do but try another way?

"bugs untouched for years" - main issue with rn 馃槮

beer for everyone

Well the feedback channel is kinda new though. But then again: why not trying something new. But complaining here is not all that innovative either ^^

Sorry, I don't want to make fun of you. That's the problem. I understand you.

I’m not getting offended no issue

That's good.

I’m just wanting to find a solution to our issues & for them to be resolved. I know the current way of doing it won’t resolve it.

Maybe the increased amount of focus & frustration of the community will finally make a difference. I doubt it, but hell it’s worth a last ditch attempt before I fully quit and give up hope for this game.

Which I really don’t want, I want to play this game, we hear constantly that players are quitting & not coming back, long term players finally throwing there hands up and leaving.

I would rather try and make a difference however fruitless my efforts may be for the betterment of this game, this is where all this comes from. My care about this game and my want for it to succeed. I’ve spent £1000s supporting this game, but unfortunately that stops until issues get resolved and will not fund the game while we are subjected to an ever increasing buggy game & an app that crashes more than works.

If you are a new player that finds the game through the App Store for example and try to play for even 10 minutes you will experience multiple crashes and likely quit immediately, this is not good for the game.

What do we do now with this?

My want is for the team to accept the game is currently in a state that is just not an acceptable state for the game. Take accountability & put full focus on making the game stable, instead of updates introducing more bugs first.

I understand new updates etc bring in money, but is it right to be asking us for money when the game isn’t stable enough to play properly? There is also plenty of regular servers and money would still be coming in during the time bugs are fixed and the game becomes stable.

Once it’s dealt with the game is in a much better state, is in a healthy position to continue for many more years to come and build upon its current success.

Unfortunately the current situation is alienating players and pushing them away, this in itself will eventually kill the game and with very little new players coming in and sticking around because of the vast issues, well we can all see where that would lead..

I could pretty much guarantee the game would see more financial success, retain players & gain more but it’s all reliant on the game being stable & enjoyable.Bonnie [DE] — Dzi艣 o 20:49

And I think it's a little too easy to judge a product from the outside like that.

We all know that the game is unstable

It’s easy to judge the product because I play it.

I don’t need to see behind the scenes to see how unstable the game is

We all know it’s unstable, the only focus should be on making it stable.

But it's not enough to understand how to monetize / care for it or run it. 

And Travian does not ask for money. They are just proposing features for money, no one is obligated to pay.

But without us paying there would be no game.

Who knows?

it is even not as almost every other game spam you with ads, there is also a free choice to watch them and also getting a small reward for it

maybe you better start speaking in the I form as in the us form. You make certain decisions in the game. That doesn't mean everybody does the same.

Well that sentence would make no sense using an I form.

There had been numerous people that have DM’ed me agreeing with what I’m doing and saying and are equally frustrated but don’t see any point in trying to make a difference.

what I wanted to mention is speak for yourself and not for others. You don't and can't know what everybody else is deciding.

Well, I’m sure you’ve successfully derailed away from the issues that are plaguing the game. Minimise issues, refocus away from them.

Maintain the status quo, it’s helping clearly.

Maintain the status quo? Now, about what community are you speaking. I don't know a single soul here, that is doing that or shying away from helping or pointing out problems

But I do know tons of players, mods, staff that are nonstop helping, giving information, figuring out work arounds and breaking their back for each other

Skylar, you have shown you love the game, you want the game to be stable and succeed, you want that for yourself and all of us. You voiced your concerns and we all hear you.. your concerns have been forwarded to the proper people, and now we wait. That is all any of us can do. We are voices for the players, we cannot literally and hands on fix anything. You have done all that can be done here. We have done all we can do here. Please know this. Let us please turn the topic over to another subject concerning the game.. game questions.. anything.. please...

Yes the same way that hasn’t got us a stable game… I’m fully aware I’ve raised the issues and they’ve been passed on through the channels available. It’s not good enough when the same issues are still around years later. This is clearly not working to resolve things 馃槗

Maintain status quo = keep following the same procedures and practices that have led the game to its current state.

Yes, everyone has heard and understood that now. But it will still not be processed faster because of this. It's going as fast as it can. Until then, we need to help each other and give tips on how to deal with it. Or take a break from playing if it gets too much. But finally leave the CM and mods alone, they can't do anything about it. 馃う‍♀️

It’ll continue being process and the focus will continue being on new updates & ways to monetise while inconsequential bugs are fixed and major issues are left for years as they have been.

I asked you the same yesterday, did you read again the guidelines  of this discord, you agreed to follow these with entering the discord. Especially the part I made the screenshot of is currently very applicable

What have a broken?

Please explain

No aggressive comments, not being impolite or abusive towards anybody. I’m raising my problem in a civilised way without attacking anybody.

I’m not sharing personal information. I’m not promoting other things.

I guess you could call me raising the issues with the game as negativity and toxicity but I’ll call that silencing because raising issues is not being negative it’s seeking solutions and hoping for better.

You make false accusations toward CM team and even ambassadors, pretending that they/we don't care about issues IG, and your affirmations about game monetization are really not pleasant

I’m not doing it I’m a way that is “trolling” either so I’ve broken none of these rules. It’s bending of rules to specific instance of prevent the issues with the game being raised and saying it’s not allowed because it’s negative

I’ve not made any false accusations towards anybody.

So, make bug reports, as much as you want, but please, let RN team do their job 

omg

Guys, we talk here for hours. Best proof we care.

But we make a break now.

Yes I’ll continue making my bug reports here and keep raising the issues until we get resolutions.

I will ask again, Can we please stop this conversation and change it into another one..

There must be a place for something else than just one topic.

Place for other players / concerns / topics.

other players get annoyed and leave 馃槮

Right.

By avoiding the issue you also get annoyed players quitting and leaving and you’ve heard it from many players making comments that they are done because of the issues

I said we make a break now.

You see? I'm talking about those kind of accusations

We can talk about this very important topic again. But for today we take a break.

That’s factual information that players have posted on this discord, that they quit because of issues

I’m not accusations but I’ll stop for today 馃檪

Thank you, I missed several switches during endgame because of you 馃槈

My chair is not amused 馃槈

I'll write you a note Bonnie


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